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mccain will end up voting for chuck hagel? >> i don't know if he will or won't, but i know when i believe that chuck hagel will probably be confirmed and that they will find a way back to a friendship or at least a good relationship. >> because of the vietnam experience. >> i think that most people disagree. i believe that chuck shum schumer will vote for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the press corps awaiting, right now hamid karzai and president obama are having lunch, and when they come out, we were told it would be at 1:15. if they come out, they will each make statements and answer questions. clearly the president is also going to be asked about domestic issues. i would suspect guns given that that is one of the prime issues that the white house is dealing with right now as joe biden continues meetings on the gun issue today. chris alissa, when we talk about president obama and what he is facing in changing his team, when david gregory asked
mccain will end up voting for chuck hagel? >> i don't know if he will or won't, but i know when i believe that chuck hagel will probably be confirmed and that they will find a way back to a friendship or at least a good relationship. >> because of the vietnam experience. >> i think that most people disagree. i believe that chuck shum schumer will vote for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the...
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only four members of the united states senate, john mccain being the fouferment i mean so what you have in kerry and hagel are two men who have seen war up front and up close, and who have become far more reluctant to deploy americans. they don't talk in the ancient language of swagger how we are going to go in and kick some tail, or anything of the sort like so many of the noncombatants do. so i think that hagel, i think brennan will bring up a discussion. we'll find out how lib ralts, in fact, they really do care about the use of drones in this administration. the seems to have given a pass to president obama, used drones more than president bush ever did and i think the republicans will use it to discuss benghazi but i think will confirmed as well. >> woodruff: both of them. you were talking about a group of loners. what are these choices and what we know so far about the president's white house staff and cabinet say about the president, david. >> it's not exactly great copy for us. they are not the most exciting group, necessarily. they are a group that has, are people of integrity,
only four members of the united states senate, john mccain being the fouferment i mean so what you have in kerry and hagel are two men who have seen war up front and up close, and who have become far more reluctant to deploy americans. they don't talk in the ancient language of swagger how we are going to go in and kick some tail, or anything of the sort like so many of the noncombatants do. so i think that hagel, i think brennan will bring up a discussion. we'll find out how lib ralts, in...
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i don't think john mccain and knows what he will do. i think the hearings for chuck hagel and the vetting process in congress and the media will have a big impact on the final results. host: we are asking our viewers this morning to tell us what they think are the foreign policy challenges in 2013. if chuck hagel were to get that spot, what does he face? guest: he will face a range of foreign policy challenges. it is almost unprecedented -- we are talking about a military that is tired and worn out after 10 years of war, facing fiscal challenges, and austerity that is unprecedented in american politics which brings pressure on all the budget that secretary hagel have to be in charge of. we're talking of instability in the middle east and north africa which is getting worse and worse including libya and egypt and syria and pakistan. we are talking about a world that is changing and is less responsive to u.s. pressure and u.s. military power and diplomacy. that changes something that chuck hagel is aware of and he has well-formed views on
i don't think john mccain and knows what he will do. i think the hearings for chuck hagel and the vetting process in congress and the media will have a big impact on the final results. host: we are asking our viewers this morning to tell us what they think are the foreign policy challenges in 2013. if chuck hagel were to get that spot, what does he face? guest: he will face a range of foreign policy challenges. it is almost unprecedented -- we are talking about a military that is tired and worn...
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mccain's lead on most things. >> it's worse that we don't know where john mccain is on this. >> he has been such a follower on so many issues so far that i -- him saying that, you know, this is a guy who is running the atlantic council and that's out of the mainstream. i think there's a little -- a credibility check. the challenge, i think, for the administration is going to be that this nomination means they're going to have to do work on both the democratic and the republican side, and, you know, usually when you are a democratic president, it's who are the key men who have worked on these nominations. who are the key republican senators? we're going to have to go and see, and in this case they're going to have to do real work on both sides. the other thing that was surprising was they let this nomination hang out there so long to the point that these narratives started -- about the jewish lobby and the gay community and sort of, you know, the republicans. i mean, it's been hanging out there for several weeks, so that also means they're going to have to do a lot of work to really tur
mccain's lead on most things. >> it's worse that we don't know where john mccain is on this. >> he has been such a follower on so many issues so far that i -- him saying that, you know, this is a guy who is running the atlantic council and that's out of the mainstream. i think there's a little -- a credibility check. the challenge, i think, for the administration is going to be that this nomination means they're going to have to do work on both the democratic and the republican...
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guest: i applaud with john mccain said about interrogation. he has been saying for ever that torture does not work and he should know. he was in the hanoi hilton for so long and tortured by north vietnam during the war. he is right, in my view. i did serve on the intelligence committee for eight years. i was there in the 1990's and came back and was a ranking member. i think we should look at interrogation policies and look at detention policies and we should look at drone policies. before this nomination, john brennan asked to come to the wilson center which i now head, he asked to comment talk about the legal framework around drone policy. it should not be our foreign policy. it is a tool but many of our tools should be developed through prom -- diplomacy and soft power and john brennan understands this. one thing i hope he will do after he is confirmed, and i predict he will be, is take a fresh look at the cia mission, reduce the paramilitary part of that mission, that should be offloaded mostly to the pentagon with the exception of an inte
guest: i applaud with john mccain said about interrogation. he has been saying for ever that torture does not work and he should know. he was in the hanoi hilton for so long and tortured by north vietnam during the war. he is right, in my view. i did serve on the intelligence committee for eight years. i was there in the 1990's and came back and was a ranking member. i think we should look at interrogation policies and look at detention policies and we should look at drone policies. before this...
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mccain advisor and create jobs and a republican like mark zandi was shut down. >> jamie: does that make sense? julie, take a step back, let's be bipartisan. does that make sense, why would republicans stand in the way. >> thank you. >> jamie: why would anybody stand in the the way of putting the american public back to work, puts more money back in the economy. >> why would the republicans threaten to default our government from the debt obligations, why would the republicans do that. >> because, it's because-- >> their right wing and they don't want the president-- listen, you had mitch mcconnell the senate leader essentially saying that his role was to make sure that president obama was a one-term president. >> and now-- >> julie, washington d.c. has a spending problem. we just cannot continue to give washington d.c. a blank check and the bottom line is this: when nancy pelosi was in control, when democrats were in control of the house and senate, the president got all of his policies through. and it's like deja vu, groundhog's date all over again and we are still looking for jocks. >
mccain advisor and create jobs and a republican like mark zandi was shut down. >> jamie: does that make sense? julie, take a step back, let's be bipartisan. does that make sense, why would republicans stand in the way. >> thank you. >> jamie: why would anybody stand in the the way of putting the american public back to work, puts more money back in the economy. >> why would the republicans threaten to default our government from the debt obligations, why would the...
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same john mccain. mitch mcconnell who says there will be tough questions for hagel. >>> is john mccain just a bitter man because president obama beat him and he's just bitter and keeps attacking whatever the president does and mitch mcconnell is still trying to live up to his saying that will make him a one-term president and in the second term, he's still trying to ruin the obama presidency? >> i think this is all a question of sour grapes. you said it first. leaving aside chuck hagel's qualifications, and he's as fine a man that ever served in the senate, number one. number two, not all of the good thing that is you dlelineated ad the president delineated, but he's probably done the most in the history of the senate. he's been e norronormously effe. i think guys like me who entered the army as privates, that warms our heart all over. he's a great pick. what you said correctly, reverend sharpton, wlen you said the president has the right to pick his own team. it's always been the tradition in america.
same john mccain. mitch mcconnell who says there will be tough questions for hagel. >>> is john mccain just a bitter man because president obama beat him and he's just bitter and keeps attacking whatever the president does and mitch mcconnell is still trying to live up to his saying that will make him a one-term president and in the second term, he's still trying to ruin the obama presidency? >> i think this is all a question of sour grapes. you said it first. leaving aside chuck...
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john mccain is a true national hero, so is chuck hagel. i have been at dinners, i was the emcee at the nixon dinner paying tribute to john kyl. john mccain did the opening. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we are here. this is why we have the capital behind us for these major discussions. i think it was a problem for chuck hagel because he demonstrated independence of thought and questioning that was vital for the country. host: i want to go back to something you said and frame it in terms of what the president said. about and afghanistan, saying iraq was a war of choice. afghanistan was a war of necessity and iraq was a war of choice. was iraq necessary? and if so, why? what did we accomplish? guest: we have not accomplished much. host: so was it worth it? guest: it depends on a lot of factors that are out of my control. terrible tyrant to his people there is no question we're better off with him gone. then the question is how we implemented doing th
john mccain is a true national hero, so is chuck hagel. i have been at dinners, i was the emcee at the nixon dinner paying tribute to john kyl. john mccain did the opening. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we are here. this is why we have the capital behind us for these major discussions. i think it was a problem for chuck hagel because he demonstrated independence of thought and questioning that was vital...
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the comment about, this is not chuck hagel's war, what john mccain said, john mccain clearly is coming from a different time in terms of the military and military action. if we look of the history books, we need to stop taking advice from these guys who were in the military and start looking at people who actually have served as opposed to the couch starker's -- talkers. host: can i ask you to review the relationship and how it has evolved between john mccain and chuck hagel? they came in both veterans of the vietnam war, both friends, yet their relationship evolved and there is some question as to whether or not john mccain will support chuck hagel. guest: it has evolved. there was a natural affinity between them because of their service in vietnam. knowing senator mccain the way i do, i do not know senator hagel, he has always been somebody who reaches out to a variety of different folks. he has an immense number of friends on the other side of the aisle. he is a very personable person. i do think over time, the differences between the two senators about iraq, afghanistan, and other
the comment about, this is not chuck hagel's war, what john mccain said, john mccain clearly is coming from a different time in terms of the military and military action. if we look of the history books, we need to stop taking advice from these guys who were in the military and start looking at people who actually have served as opposed to the couch starker's -- talkers. host: can i ask you to review the relationship and how it has evolved between john mccain and chuck hagel? they came in both...
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i would mention john mccain in that category of disagreements they've had in the past, but also to hold the president's feet to the fire on other things they want to have more on the table. gwen: i have a hard time imagining senator schumer, a leading democrat, in the end -- he may hold out his support but in the end, not supporting the president's choice. >> no, and hagel's going to say what schumer wants to hear about support for israel. there's no question about that. gwen: already has. >> and he's calling senate ofss saying he's a strong supporter of israel but on the point of, if he's going to not get confirmed, i would find that shocking because the president will line up behind the -- democrats will line up behind the president's choice. >> two purple hearts. gwen: john brennan has to be confirmed and he's been the architect, for many democrats, a far more troubling policy of targeting killings and drones. >> the drone policy, right. i would imagine that his confirmation hearing, as they should be, a full discussion about what the president's policies are going forward and are.hi
i would mention john mccain in that category of disagreements they've had in the past, but also to hold the president's feet to the fire on other things they want to have more on the table. gwen: i have a hard time imagining senator schumer, a leading democrat, in the end -- he may hold out his support but in the end, not supporting the president's choice. >> no, and hagel's going to say what schumer wants to hear about support for israel. there's no question about that. gwen: already...
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john mccain spoke out a little bit against him. his statement about brennan was a lot less harsh than the one about hagel. it looks like he's in good shape some of the civil liberties groups may want to testify at brennan's hearing. the question is how much, if anything, did he know about waterboarding and these other interrogation techniques during the bush administration. he said he wasn't involved. that will be the big question at his hearing. >> bill: david you and i have seen john brennan on the few times he's come into the white house briefing room. i remember particularly when he came in right after the osama bin laden mission right and described to us what happened. it turned out some of the information he gave us was not correct. he was giving all of the information he had at the time. he's always impressed me as one tough cookie. >> very much so. yes. he's a 24/7 kind of guy. always on the job. everything that happens you see brennan briefing the president. he's always around. rare guys who has good contacts in both parti
john mccain spoke out a little bit against him. his statement about brennan was a lot less harsh than the one about hagel. it looks like he's in good shape some of the civil liberties groups may want to testify at brennan's hearing. the question is how much, if anything, did he know about waterboarding and these other interrogation techniques during the bush administration. he said he wasn't involved. that will be the big question at his hearing. >> bill: david you and i have seen john...
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. >> rose: john mccain, for example. >> well, i mean, yes, he and others. i think that it was-- it was predicated by politics. and not the public interest. but that said, you know, when the president made his choice he made a positive choice, not a grudging choice, because he has known john kerry, he served with john kerry. john kerry's been an extraordinary partner with the administration over the last four years in the foreign relations. >> rose: and has undertaken missions for the president, syria and other places. >> has indeed. so the president has great confidence in him. he knows chuck hagel well, they traveled to iraq and afghanistan together. i think he admired hagel's strength and independence in standing up of these issues in the senate. and he i was intrigued by hagel's status as someone who has actually been an enlisted man, two purple hearts, understands the wages of war. >> rose: and are friends too, i mean he liked him. >> there's no doubt that he likes him. and i, you know, i think that the fact that they have a good and close working relat
. >> rose: john mccain, for example. >> well, i mean, yes, he and others. i think that it was-- it was predicated by politics. and not the public interest. but that said, you know, when the president made his choice he made a positive choice, not a grudging choice, because he has known john kerry, he served with john kerry. john kerry's been an extraordinary partner with the administration over the last four years in the foreign relations. >> rose: and has undertaken missions...
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and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack obama says about his own cabinet. another thing important to mention here is like matt was saying a bit is, take the john brennan pick. the john kerry pick. obama's trying to surround himself with people he really is friends with and likes. the first term was people like hillary clinton, jim jones, bob gates. they're big names. those aren't necessarily obama allies. brennan, hagel, kerry, susan rice, these are really people obama knows and is close to. that's what he's trying to build for his second term. >> i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, democrat from california. always good to see you, congressman, good morning. >> thank you. good morning. >> do you think if this fight if it does materialize over chuck hagel could have the effect o
and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack obama says about his own cabinet. another thing important to mention here is like matt was saying a bit is, take the john brennan pick. the john kerry pick. obama's trying to...
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. >> john mccain is speaking out about google chairman eric schmidt's trip to north korea. schmidt is there along with brichl arvedson. mccain borrowing a term from the former communist leader vladimir linen. he arrived in north korea today. lennon used to call them useful idiots. state department says it is wrong to visit weeks after the controversial rocket launch. >>> he scored a $1 million lottery win back in june. the aafter he got the winning the check was issued then he mysteriously died. at first his dearth was believe to be from natural causes but now the medical examiner says he was poisoned with cyanide. his body will likely be exhumed. >> they thought they were going to see whales but they saw much more than that. >> holy cow. >> that is about a thousand of the dolphins. that's a lot giving passengers on board a whale watching safari in california quite a show. dolphin stampede are said to be very rare and often happen without a warning. so neat. it doesn't even look real. >> beautiful. >> that's your 5@5:30. >> switch gears now. multiple battles are brewing for
. >> john mccain is speaking out about google chairman eric schmidt's trip to north korea. schmidt is there along with brichl arvedson. mccain borrowing a term from the former communist leader vladimir linen. he arrived in north korea today. lennon used to call them useful idiots. state department says it is wrong to visit weeks after the controversial rocket launch. >>> he scored a $1 million lottery win back in june. the aafter he got the winning the check was issued then he...
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and they quietly say we line up behind john mccain. i think john mccain is critical here, but there's no doubt that mitch mcconnell has to understand that crossing a war hero who saved his brother's life, who is in the mainstream far more so than lindsey graham, in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy, you know, it's going to be a hard guy for mitch mcconnell to vote against. >> as john points out, mcconnell gushed over chuck hagel when he left the senate. on the floor of the senate, he gave a speech that went on and on about chuck hagel. let's be clear, a lot of this is about israel. you heard lindsey graham say it. john mccain has said it as well. they think chuck hagel will be too soft on iran. he suggested maybe that there should be negotiations with hamas, something that people like lindsey graham reject out of hand. that's a big piece of all this. >> if they stop him, it will be on israel and iran. that's, i think, the only issue that potentially stops him. >> remember, he's the secretary of defense. the president's policies are
and they quietly say we line up behind john mccain. i think john mccain is critical here, but there's no doubt that mitch mcconnell has to understand that crossing a war hero who saved his brother's life, who is in the mainstream far more so than lindsey graham, in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy, you know, it's going to be a hard guy for mitch mcconnell to vote against. >> as john points out, mcconnell gushed over chuck hagel when he left the senate. on the floor of the senate, he...
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john mccain clearly is coming from a different time. i think we are going to start looking at the history books -- we should start looking at people who have served as opposed to these couch talkers. host: can i take a step back and ask you about the relationship and how it has a vault between john mccain and chuck hagel? the bulls came in veterans of the vietnam war, both friends, and now the relationship has evolved. there is question as to whether john mccain support chuck hagel. guest: it has evolved. knowing senator mccain the way i do, he has always been somebody to reaches out to a variety of different folks. he has friends of the other side. i do think the differences between the two senators about barack and afghanistan and other issues -- about iraq and afghanistan and other issues -- all of those things have led to a divergence. the fact that they are no longer best buddies -- at the end of the day washington is about politics. there are opposed opinions to this key security measure. host: chuck hagel served as the chair of t
john mccain clearly is coming from a different time. i think we are going to start looking at the history books -- we should start looking at people who have served as opposed to these couch talkers. host: can i take a step back and ask you about the relationship and how it has a vault between john mccain and chuck hagel? the bulls came in veterans of the vietnam war, both friends, and now the relationship has evolved. there is question as to whether john mccain support chuck hagel. guest: it...
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senator john mccain doesn't think it could either and john mccain explained this morning why he doesn't think an assault weapons ban should pass congress and he used the overseas example of mass murderer. >> we obviously have a situation where crazy people, deranged individuals, have access to guns. how do you do that? in norway, a country with the most stringent gun laws, a guy was able to slaughter a huge number of people in norway. we need to look at it in the entirety. >> senator john mccain does not believe taking guns away from people will reduce gun violence but he thinks public safety would improve by figuring out a way to keep guns out of the hands of deranged individuals something that the democratic senator murphy agrees with but murphy wants to go further with a strict assault weapons ban. he described that legislation this morning. >> it is a tighter ban than the previous ban. it will address high capacity bans. as soon as we passed that ban in 1990's the gun manufacturers found another way around it and other states have stricter bans and that is what the congress needs to
senator john mccain doesn't think it could either and john mccain explained this morning why he doesn't think an assault weapons ban should pass congress and he used the overseas example of mass murderer. >> we obviously have a situation where crazy people, deranged individuals, have access to guns. how do you do that? in norway, a country with the most stringent gun laws, a guy was able to slaughter a huge number of people in norway. we need to look at it in the entirety. >>...
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mccain in 2008. he stressed independence from the jewish lobby. critics biggest concern is whether he is tough enough on iran. >> secretary panetta, the current secretary of defense said there is a red line there over which we will not allow iran to cross. the president had different times has said the same thing. chuck hagel has said previously that he doesn't believe that we ought to keep all options on the table when it comes to an iranian nuclear threat. >> the white house says hagel has been strongly supportive of israel's security. they say his views are insync with the president. as you alluded hagel apologized for calling a u.s. dip openly aggressively gay 14 years ago. shepard? >> shepard: much less opposition to john brennan's nomination, correct? >> there do seem to be fewer concerns but that doesn't mean less concerns. 25 years at the cia before becoming the president's counter terrorism advisor. he was considered for the cia post in 2008 but withdrew his name because he didn't want the c
mccain in 2008. he stressed independence from the jewish lobby. critics biggest concern is whether he is tough enough on iran. >> secretary panetta, the current secretary of defense said there is a red line there over which we will not allow iran to cross. the president had different times has said the same thing. chuck hagel has said previously that he doesn't believe that we ought to keep all options on the table when it comes to an iranian nuclear threat. >> the white house says...
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however, that has been opposed by the group of carl levin and john mccain. >> there are a lot of competing interests here, and some folks for the compromise where instead just some nominees could be blocked, but each senator could have unlimited abilities to filibuster a nominee. again, with the republicans in the minority, they don't want to see any erosion of their kind of de facto control of the chamber. >> jennifer: do you think new senators--we've got a closer margin than last time. we have 55 democratic senators. they need 60 to overcome the senator. elizabeth war len, did she sign on with the filibuster reform. >> we have a new class of senators and she has experience with the filibuster. some of the reforms she was involved in crafts were blocked. foreclosure mitigation was filibustered, credit card reforms were filibustered, so she has an unique perspective. >> jennifer: she's able to help get that through. how is the use the right wing use of the filibuster around gun safety. >> obama is entering his fifth year in the office. he has not been able to nominate--confirm, a single he
however, that has been opposed by the group of carl levin and john mccain. >> there are a lot of competing interests here, and some folks for the compromise where instead just some nominees could be blocked, but each senator could have unlimited abilities to filibuster a nominee. again, with the republicans in the minority, they don't want to see any erosion of their kind of de facto control of the chamber. >> jennifer: do you think new senators--we've got a closer margin than last...
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i would also point out, wolf, that john mccain is on the same side as the liberal civil rights group the aclu in this. they are raising the same kinds of questions. even though in the past, brennan has said that he opposes these enhanced interrogation techniques. >> we'll watch these confirmation hearings every step of the way. >> should be interesting, both of them. >> low flying helicopters have people in some of the country's biggest cities asking questions. the answers have to do with preparations for a possible terrorist attack. using radioactive dirty bombs. >>> plus, before we get to that, we have some new details emerging about the colorado theater shootings, including the suspect's strange behavior once he was caught. uncer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called
i would also point out, wolf, that john mccain is on the same side as the liberal civil rights group the aclu in this. they are raising the same kinds of questions. even though in the past, brennan has said that he opposes these enhanced interrogation techniques. >> we'll watch these confirmation hearings every step of the way. >> should be interesting, both of them. >> low flying helicopters have people in some of the country's biggest cities asking questions. the answers...
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mccain and dianne feinstein said the report concludes torture did not work. they say it was a stain on our reputation. it is important that that report is declassified to the public in light of "zero dark 30." it is about the killing of osama bin laden bin laden. i think the movie will do for torture with jaws did for sharks. it will become the public perception of reality and it is a lie. i think that moving makes it doubly important for the senate select committee to report -- to get the report declassified so the public can have a debate on the truth and not this hollywood lie. it is ironic that, to this day, -- the military officer said to reveal names, talking about torture will get you sentenced to prison. committing torture makes you a hero. you've got jose rodriguez and these people who have written books and they are heroes in the eyes of folks that believe that torture works and they are walking free and we're sending somebody to prison for their words and nobody has gone to prison for their actions. the drone program is another area and we have a m
mccain and dianne feinstein said the report concludes torture did not work. they say it was a stain on our reputation. it is important that that report is declassified to the public in light of "zero dark 30." it is about the killing of osama bin laden bin laden. i think the movie will do for torture with jaws did for sharks. it will become the public perception of reality and it is a lie. i think that moving makes it doubly important for the senate select committee to report -- to...
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. >> it's interesting senator john mccain and andrea mitchell my colleague in the prior hour pointed out earlier today many watching to see what his response would be and lindsey graham's hard line against chuck hagel. senator mccain's statement says chuck hagel served our nation with honor in vietnam and congratulate him on the nomination. i have serious concerns about positions he has taken on a range of national security issues and senator mccain will be at the table. we have colin powell who's come out in support of the nam nation saying he's proud of the record and the words may matter but he won't be there in that nomination process. what do you think will play out here the most? >> i think it's obvious people against the nomination focusing on three things, the budget fight which i think hagel is valuable because he says things that people think and don't say with taboo subjects. the budget is out of control and needs to be reeled in and looking at the record on iran for which he's described as outside the mainstream and i think there's -- if you poll the american people, nobo
. >> it's interesting senator john mccain and andrea mitchell my colleague in the prior hour pointed out earlier today many watching to see what his response would be and lindsey graham's hard line against chuck hagel. senator mccain's statement says chuck hagel served our nation with honor in vietnam and congratulate him on the nomination. i have serious concerns about positions he has taken on a range of national security issues and senator mccain will be at the table. we have colin...
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john kerry, a democrat. bob kerrey, a democrat. chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets, decorated heroes and they were really close. then they started splitting over the questions of the use of force. then they split, of course, when barack obama ran for president. chuck hagel's wife endorsed barack obama when he was a candidate. chuck hagel stopped short of it. lots of republicans don't believe hague sl a republican, by the way. mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans in the senate yesterday hold his fire, as jim was pointing out, hold his fire. didn't come out against the nominati nomination. everybody has their own po
john kerry, a democrat. bob kerrey, a democrat. chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >>...
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which is a first-class smear campaign by john mccain and lindsey graham. is it going to work? >> no. i don't think it's going to work. >> bill: it is despicable what they're doing. >> it is absolutely terrible. the whole thing what they did to susan rice also. >> bill: a month ago. >> unbelievable. it is not going to work. hagel has enough support. enough support among former ambassadors, former military people. both parties. former diplomats of both parties. there's going to be a substantial vote against him i think. by that, i mean 15 or 20. >> bill: republicans? >> yeah. i don't see any democrats going against him. we'll see. i don't know. they say schumer is going to send a big signal on the israel question. but i think chuck will be for him. >> bill: tough for republicans, i'm not disagreeing with you but still tough for them. here's a guy who is a war hero, who is a patriot, who is a republican. you know, who sort of -- if mitt romney nominated him, they would probably be saying -- hey one of our guys. >> of course they would. he's an -- as far as that type. >> bill: jac
which is a first-class smear campaign by john mccain and lindsey graham. is it going to work? >> no. i don't think it's going to work. >> bill: it is despicable what they're doing. >> it is absolutely terrible. the whole thing what they did to susan rice also. >> bill: a month ago. >> unbelievable. it is not going to work. hagel has enough support. enough support among former ambassadors, former military people. both parties. former diplomats of both parties....
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you've been severely criticized by john mccain. he was here in "the situation room" this week and i interviewed him after that tweet calling you and eric schmidt useful idiots, a term that they used to call americans who represented the communism during the stall lynn regime. >> do you think that the north koreans are going to take governor richardson and mr. schmidt to see one of those? i don't think so. and so what this does, it provides a propaganda kind of success for this four-star general saving americans coming to see us. finally, how many trips has bill richardson taken to north korea and what have been the results of it? >> he's pretty tough. he hated the fact you went there, that the north koreans could use you for propaganda purposes. >> let me tell you what i think i've been able to bring back. i've been able to bring back american soldiers, american hostages, the remains of seven of our warriors from the korean war. i don't know if senator mccain knows about that. i'm surprised at the personal nature of his comments. w
you've been severely criticized by john mccain. he was here in "the situation room" this week and i interviewed him after that tweet calling you and eric schmidt useful idiots, a term that they used to call americans who represented the communism during the stall lynn regime. >> do you think that the north koreans are going to take governor richardson and mr. schmidt to see one of those? i don't think so. and so what this does, it provides a propaganda kind of success for this...
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you know, you listen to people like john mccain, and the idea is you have to continue to invest in a country because we invested all this blood and treasure for all of these years, and it would be wasted. that was the logic of vietnam as well. you can sustain trying to build a nation that many empires have tried and failed before to do so. it's not about karzai anymore. it's not actually about al qaeda. it's not really even about the taliban. it's about pride. it's about the mistakes that have been made and the lives that have been lost. how do you best honor that? >> yeah. >> gail, stay with us, if you can. >>> up next, a preview of "meet the press" with david gregory and "the washington post's" eugene robinson. first bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> we're having our father/son powwow. barnicle is going to control the weather maps. we're going to do the rooerever. >> i'm a high-pressure area. >> yes, you are, hothead. you have to go a little slower. we're confusing people. now we're on saturday already. let's just start with your weekend forecast. you can't go back. that
you know, you listen to people like john mccain, and the idea is you have to continue to invest in a country because we invested all this blood and treasure for all of these years, and it would be wasted. that was the logic of vietnam as well. you can sustain trying to build a nation that many empires have tried and failed before to do so. it's not about karzai anymore. it's not actually about al qaeda. it's not really even about the taliban. it's about pride. it's about the mistakes that have...
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. >> john: democrats loves having a republican that they love. most democrats have a republican dad. like mccain, mike huckabee, a charismatic guy who is a straight talker. george w bush, damn them all. it happens. when did he become this popular among democrats, is it just popularity. >> are you saying we just enjoy a spanking? we want a father figure. >> john: no, i'm saying when you look at presidential elections isn't always the most charismatic who win regardless of platform. >> sadly they will negate. when clinton gore and bush,. >> john: and gore won. >> let's just say gore for the purposes. but the thing is, it really is--and there are other men jon huntsman who i've met. huntsman is a bright, articulate guy who believes in science. he's wacky for that. i disagree with him on most issues but we need someone--with christie he does show flexibility like in new jersey he said after sandy we're going to have to raise taxes. that points to the other republicans who were so--they don't live in reality. chris christie lives in the real world. >>
. >> john: democrats loves having a republican that they love. most democrats have a republican dad. like mccain, mike huckabee, a charismatic guy who is a straight talker. george w bush, damn them all. it happens. when did he become this popular among democrats, is it just popularity. >> are you saying we just enjoy a spanking? we want a father figure. >> john: no, i'm saying when you look at presidential elections isn't always the most charismatic who win regardless of...
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kerry, john mccain, none of them was in negative territory. all of them had more people viewing them favorably than unfavorably. this was really something we hadn't seen before in election polling. now, part of that reflects the greater polarization of american politics right now. it used to be the case that a lot of voters of the other side even though they were committed to voting democratic still would like the other guy. i mean, even in 2008, you know, a lot of democrats liked john mccain. they thought he was an okay guy, they just weren't going to vote for him. and now i think we're in a period of kind of greater partisanship in some respects so that his ratings were much lower among obama supporters and democrats in general than is typical for that kind of cross-party opposition. but the bigger issue was among independent voters, among the sort of middle of the electorate. he was just an unappealing candidate, and it wasn't just that they weren't excited about him, they actively didn't like him. to say that you feel unfavorably about som
kerry, john mccain, none of them was in negative territory. all of them had more people viewing them favorably than unfavorably. this was really something we hadn't seen before in election polling. now, part of that reflects the greater polarization of american politics right now. it used to be the case that a lot of voters of the other side even though they were committed to voting democratic still would like the other guy. i mean, even in 2008, you know, a lot of democrats liked john mccain....
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susan paige, we are also seeing the discussion perculating about john brennan. what is clear is there was such a personal connection. barack obama was so happy to be nominating john brennan tore sar. veteran cia. at the same time, with the coincidence of zero dark 30 and all of the talk about the post-9/11 celebration gargs -- enhanced interrogation techniques, that was on john brennan's watch, but what the president is saying is that john brennan is going to be in charge of the newark technical tour to refine drone attacks and continuing this undeclared war and also interrogation techniques to create a legal framework going forward. >> i saw that the president's remarks when he named brennan were interesting because he went exactly at this point. he said he had been an advocate for obeying the law, for being a nation of laws when it comes to these kind of attacks, and i think that john brennan has done a lot since this issue pretty much cost him head of the cia the last time around to try to make it clear that he recognizes the law and recognizes the limits, bu
susan paige, we are also seeing the discussion perculating about john brennan. what is clear is there was such a personal connection. barack obama was so happy to be nominating john brennan tore sar. veteran cia. at the same time, with the coincidence of zero dark 30 and all of the talk about the post-9/11 celebration gargs -- enhanced interrogation techniques, that was on john brennan's watch, but what the president is saying is that john brennan is going to be in charge of the newark...
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so i'm sure he's going to come out, along with john mccain saying it's outrageous. >> gretchen: we'll see when hillary clinton does testify. they want her to testify before john kerry takes over ostensibly as secretary of state. let's tell but this story. remember aig, they received a huge government bailout. actually i at this part of their company desperately needed and the rest was put upon them. now they're saying they have violated possibly the fifth amendment which would prohibit the taking of private property for public use without just compensation. why is that important? because now they may join with shareholders in this lawsuit filed against the government claiming that, in fact, even though they received this multimillion, billion dollars bailout that they in fact may be due more. >> steve: yeah. they got $182 billion to bail them out because they made some very bad business decisions. now the former ceo is on the outside looking in and he and his lawyer, david boys, they contend there was a punitive interest rate of more than 14% placed on aig. plus federal government too
so i'm sure he's going to come out, along with john mccain saying it's outrageous. >> gretchen: we'll see when hillary clinton does testify. they want her to testify before john kerry takes over ostensibly as secretary of state. let's tell but this story. remember aig, they received a huge government bailout. actually i at this part of their company desperately needed and the rest was put upon them. now they're saying they have violated possibly the fifth amendment which would prohibit...